Hey man, the blame is not on the artist…a good song can get signed with a Sh*tty singer and a terrible demo, its all about Hooks. Dog day every day, let's vote! Its a scam and the CEO knows it . I know what you mean about the tech. I would say that if you are extremely close to being able to write. Maybe it’s me…. On the 1st and 15th of every month, they provide a list of industry opportunities for members to submit songs to. What? They were riding the same moped and killed by the same taxi driven by the same driver. Page 1 of 1 Start over Page 1 of 1 . Still, I submit tracks occasionally to Tracks and Fields, Music Dealers, and a couple others. I met a lot of great people on Taxi. 5 offers from £5.20. After 309 has heard 9 or 10 of my songs WHICH HE HAS, I believe it is completely impossible for him to be unbiased towards my music, in fact, I believe he can now spot my music blind folded because he hears it so much, practically every time I send something in, and I am TRAPPED BY WHAT HE AND HE ALONE THINKS OF IT. • If your mom told you that your pretty little instrumental sounds like it should be in a movie and you believed her, you should join TAXI. So, what were the variables? But I quite like a good pop song, so I’m going to try writing for the opportunities where they’re looking for songs for an artist. Why people pay some out of work Ex [email protected] rep or some person who wrote a hit song and now they know everything or (act like they do )is beyond me I guess some just don’t know better. Unfortunately, I haven’t had any contact or calls from prospective music industry reps. Thought Taxi was a scam then. That’s without spending a dime, or devoting any time beyond signing up and updating Marmoset and AudioSparx with new releases (I gave up on Music Dealers). Taxi.com openly admits that only 6% of their artists get some kind of deal (who knows how many paid submissions they already submitted). But if you’re really spinning your wheels musically, but want to make a living, want to get airplay, want to get gigs and streams, etc., it’s going to be tough if most/almost all of the gatekeepers are telling you/me/us, repeatedly, “Sorry kid. Both very well known African instruments. The TAXI and Songhunters submission fees are more of a disincentive than anything, to stop people from sending in anything and everything. I’m sure you’ll get a response from them! Taxi is a scam. Other members who aren’t getting a monetary return from their membership just need to wake up and be more informed and serious about the business of music because the music industry is as much about business as it is about music. Hello Bryon, I really appreciate your openness and sincerity. All the best. As far as placements, I never had any luck with them. They are running a business alright- and doing very well at it. I can only speak to my situation, but I think it applies to a lot of us. Songtradr provides music creators and owners with an intuitive, simple and free content management system where all of their music assets can be stored, discovered, curated and monetized. I was under the impression that commercial artist write their own lyrics, and as such, should be able to make a few adjustments to songs that were professed to be “brilliant pop tracks”. Not one of my concerns was addressed professionally. There are companies like MusicXray.com, Sonicbids.com and Taxi.com who charge you to submit to music supervisors (oh you also have pay to become a member) for consideration. They act more like a big bulk publishing company pitching songs but unlike a publishing company it does not matter how many times they are wrong how many great songs they overlook they still get paid ! it’s cookie cutter. Having been a member for almost two years now, I've had a very similar experience. 4.8 out of 5 stars 14. I’ve never been in a tribute band. I know that a flashy website doesn;t guarantee a good service either, but with them you have to wonder if they are still moving with the times. Michael Laskow is very sincere about what his company does. Not interested. Not Taxi’s problem, more a dose of reality from the music business for someone who’s never really tried to write commercially. still, Ive tried all sorts of self promo and gotten little gain. I’ve been there. Plain and simple . Not to mention that’s really an insult when your paying them money . But your article says that TAXI DID its job… we forwarded your music to the companies that requested it. https://forums.taxi.com/taxi-success-stories-f7.html. Some are more successful than others, and after sharing experiences and music for some time you learn where you stand in the business. Glad you found results elsewhere though. I guess I’m thinking out loud with this post, but as a songwriter seeking a “career” or even an on the side thing in TV and Film placements, you are a business and that means risk, research, trying things, spending money and probably losing some money, if not a lot of money. if you are still learning that's another matter. Brian, The only time I hear about Taxi is through blog comments. If you’re reading this and you don’t know the difference between and instrumental and an instrumental CUE, then you should join TAXI. The music business is hard, but I think I prefer to use services (and my own initiative) where I can pitch directly to the artists/producers/supervisors etc. Really I do! Users have complete control of their rights along with incredible tools, empowering creators and owners with the flexibility they need to run their music business the way they want to. His response was troubling. The problem is when you do it and submit it for review….you often get some thin and veiled critique. Should I sign the boys up? I was feeling good about my renewed Taxi membership, I let it lapsed for 7 years. Primarily, I wanted to know where my $3,000 invested went, who has really heard my music, why should I renew, why all the wonderful forwards, and why is the whole process a mystery. Also, these people had different results using the same same service, the same screeners, and ostensibly the same listings. Songtradr distribution VS Distrokid (anyone tried Songtradr for distribution?) Search job openings at Songtradr. Look there are industry professionals all over Youtube offering classes, free advice learn all you want. It’s a lot like that parable about the eight blind musicians and the elephant, isn’t it? People who can give you honest feedback *and* be supportive… what can be better than that? BONUS NEWS: Songtradr's lowered their "Pro Level" (monthly payment) from $7.99 to just $4.99 which also give you the lower amount taken as commission. Too often an artist thinks “I’m my own person, I am unique, I don’t need advice, I can go it alone”. Thanks Craig! I had dinner two nights ago with two TAXI members that BOTH earn multi-six-figure incomes. As for me, most of my income comes from mastering, followed by mixing and mix consultation. Perspective, right? If you try them, let me know how it goes! Here is a paragraph from your recommended reading: Music is an extremely subjective medium. My review of Taxi? Brian, I have a similar example of a specific critique that was confusing and or contradictory and is frustrating because we cannot communicate back and ask a question of the screener on their comments. Then he went on to tell me that at least they’re not Broadjam, which posts fake listings and steals members’ submission fees. You must have some great tracks to get so many forwards, and I get your frustrations with not getting as many deals as you’d like. Taxi simply is what it is: a stepping stone… a doorway, but the best way to succeed in this business is to pound away at it from every angle. BUT of course they STRESS they can’t “guarantee” anything. I was experiencing that the service was different than before, how can it not be we all grow with maturity learn from our mistakes and building blocks with relationships that are fruitful and pruning ones that were not for Taxi. Anyway, I did rejoin recently. I respect your decision to move on. Most libraries, whether non-exclusive or exclusive, will help most composers make over a few hundred dollars. Creating and hustling, yes, and staying as upbeat as I can, but not breaking through. Which from my perspective is a good thing. Respectfully, BUT here’s the qualifier that applies somewhat to Taxi and in varying degrees to other promotional/pr/artist facilitating entities. Lol . I have heard over-and-over and over….”find a new way to say things”. Thank you Brian for the quick response. I’ve just started watching the Taxi A&R TV channel on YouTube and even though I’m not a member (but considering becoming one at some point), I’m finding those over an hour long shows with Mr. Laskow informative and good to watch as I put in my daily hour on my elliptical anyway. TAXI seems like a great venue for TV composers, not so much for songwriters and producers trying to get songs placed (outside of the country industry). And he heard her say, “That’s all the time I need” 17th … How many songs did they end up stealing from you? Putting their “companies they deal with” up on the blog would be refreshing because everyone is curious who uses them. We haven’t indoctrinated ourselves in the taxi forum (where I’ve actually read posts from members stating “We’re not supposed to say bad things about Taxi here”). hmm…. I’m certainly steering clear of scams like Taxi. I asked him about the screeners and he touted “If you saw their resumes, you would take back every word you have said and be in my office crying”. I do. At least then you’re in the game, whereas when you don’t get Taxi forwards, you’re paying Taxi not to play. When you see a match for your music, send it to us, and our A&R team will pre-screen it for the company that needs it. And what happens when one of those screeners have a fight with there spouse that morning before they hear your song and are just not in the mood ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jEsZ129HsM&t=1s (Most of the musicians I like are Indie, Americana, singer-songwriter, Indie pop, New Folk, EDM, shoe-gaze, Brit-pop, Red Dirt, country-rock-punk, etc. Now, here is a critique from screener 309…. They self released an album and I’m trying to get them a deal. The chorus is: I don’t want to stare out the window it would already be happening for me. If I were producing house, for example, I think I’d be better off with a community like Indaba or Splice, where I can learn the tricks of the trade. That's fantastic. I’ve got to say, 12 years of us forwarding your music and no deals yet… wow! Thanks for sharing your experiences! The thing is, I get asked dozens of times a day to “check out my track.” Rather than ignoring the requests or saying no, I refer people to my profile on Fluence. Tom Roble says: August 24, 2018 at 6:30 pm. I only did one year with them and despite a few forwards I did not get anywhere (had more luck with sonicbids). After more than a year, we all agreed to part ways. I almost spit out my coffee. None of these programs are cheap, so I’m glad I didn’t shell out the thousands of dollars. I’ve seen it firsthand at the conventions. Zero results. I looked into them years ago but was too poor then too! • If you don’t know what an “arc” is, then you should join TAXI. Any advice you can offer is greatly appreciated! But if you’re willing to put in the time, it’s worth a shot! Maybe I saw you many years ago on some audio forum somewhere. But, Dispatch has more opportunities than I have hours in the day. It very much depends upon what genre you are writing for and how good you are at producing a professional sounding recording. After scouring reviews–including yours–we think CDBaby will be the best choice for our upcoming releases. Share Reply Quote. Hi Brian; I have a few others that have been shortlisted. I’ve spent some time in the forums on and off over the years. Na, na, na, na,na: Thanks for the submission B. It’s important to remember that Taxi just does what it does and it’s up to the artists to do the rest, AND THERE’S A LOT TO DO!!!!!!!! We give a damn. Millions of dollars flow into that company but very little flows out. Realist. Similar to Songtradr or Taxi. Thanks for commenting! Maybe disable the punters comments or read them before you post them. Similar to Songtradr or Taxi. I’ve watched some pretty incredible things happen there for us independent musicians (I’ve personally maintained several Rally connections over the years and landed a few deals as a result). Now that it’s 2019 I’m brand new to MusicSupervisor (less than a week) and hopefully soon with Marmoset (waiting to hear back). The people who really want to become successful take advantage of all the education we give them so they can pitch the RIGHT music to the right opportunities, so they can know if the deal they’re being offered is a good deal for them, and so they can learn to create music that people need and can USE! It’s all direct-to-fan for me now. why would you want to sign with a label anyway? Unless your forwards are going to the same publisher or music library, and your stuff grows on them over time, I don’t see the number of forwards as being a useful metric. I haven’t landed anything yet, but have been close (according to the one way communication I get), and believe I will if I just keep improving my craft and focus on submissions where my strengths will shine. ONE SCREENER, THE SAME SCREENER, EVERY TIME!!!! Another says don’t annoy them. Since you left TAXI 9 years ago, how much income have you averaged per year from sync placements you got post TAXI? Great job Michael! And if it pushes you to finish more songs, there you go. It’s the demo creating bit I find hard, but it’ll push me to get the songs beyond lyrics on a piece of paper into something to be heard. Looking for feedback here from other people who left Taxi and found a lot of success with the same stuff elsewhere. No. So, in the end TAXI’s model and services have expanded and become MUCH more than just pitching music. He explained to me that those reviews were most likely written by his competitors and not real artists. One would hope! Subject to who sh*t in their corn flakes like every other government official or parking meter maid. I actually appreciate that critique, it has information in it that I can use in the future to help me pitch more accurately. 5) They come to the free convention we put on for our members every year, the Road Rally. Your stuff sounds solid to me! me making quickly built stuff comes out cookie-cutter and basically junk. But, perhaps it’s not for everyone. "Music Wanted" libraries like Songtradr/Taxi, etc. NOT A TEAM OF SCREENERS, ONE SCREENER. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Possibly best of many classic scenes from one of the best shows of all time, Taxi. producers,and songwriters who are burned out or creatively running on empty. Sorry. The series won 18 Emmy Awards, including three for Outstanding Comedy Series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSkFNjDuV04&t=880s As much as I love the company and have the highest respect for Michael and the staff, I think their business model specifically for the film & TV licensing is a bit outdated since now days you can pretty much get the library & music supervisor information online. I will leave it to each of you reading this to take a hard look in the mirror and soul-search to see if this applies to you. Seems okay. And the same passenger was in the car. 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