Wrong. Jan 8, 2021 - Explore Jess's board "11th Doctor Art" on Pinterest. Best example is the change from 9 to 10. And we saw at the last episode Doctor kiss her (never did before with any of women) and called her his wife. There is no chance he has to take. I think 9 and Rose were much better. thank you someone who is makeing sense.I mean come on do you watch the show!!? ( Unless he loses his memory, but it happened once and yet he still remembered Rose, altough he didnt know who she is) ANYWAY. Sort of. He knows River Song is going to die after the first time she met him. Awww. Just watch 'The Wedding of River Song'. Personally, I prefer Rose (9 was my first doctor), but I don't believe a long term relationship between her and the Doctor would have worked, they were very much in the "honeymoon" period the entire time. For a start, she died the very first time they met, which would usually be a barrier to any relationship developing. Because everything started with them and it was just so beautiful. River married the man in whose Tardis he was born. But Rose chose living spending her life with the man who grabbed her hand and simply said "Run", A Member of Townsquare Entertainment News. After he regenerated, I wouldn't say he really "loved" river until the end of Series 6. And the other things make them two sides of a coin: they are both psychopat, genius, time lord, hot and flirty (to each other). Then Rose and then River Song.But there are a lot of other women who come before River … how can ppl nit get tht he love her more dont denynit. He loved them both, for different reasons and in different ways. So thanks for the fic. That's all that stays constant. I agree. Also on that point he would know that time would never of happened so he did it just to get everything back to normal. I have a theory that each Doctor is an aspect of his personality. He married River Song. 9 somehow filled with bitterness and angry. I am inclined to say Rose. Caring for River Song means that he has nothing to lose. She isn't a companion of doctor. And after watching "Angels Take Manhattan" I think he really cares about River... Well, you have to remember, The Doctor told River his real name. He says that it's not just your body that changes, it's the personality, and how they act, I agree, I mean he uses up a generation of his life just to heal River's wrist. 10 LOVES Rose and knows it, but I reckon 11 doesn't realize he still LOVES Rose because River is confusing him. He knows River Song is going to die after the first time she met him. I think asking who he loves "more" is impossible to measure. It made me cry. By using Fanpop, you agree to our use of cookies. She later shot and killed him, which would also be considered a dealbreaker for most couples, but in this case led to marriage! Perraonality traits may have changed. AND HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS, IS THAT SO HARD TO GET OVER? She is genius as doctor. Someone who understands him in a way that nobody else around ever could, until Gallifrey returns. That's such a great power but she managed to keep alive with it. he said just as there was an explosion outside. And another point, they both like to wear remarkable. Ten has such a deep and profound love for Rose. "That was a projection of the Angel. Caring for River Song means that he has nothing to lose. So Rose is like the rebound holiday romance with whom you share something unique, passionate and wonderful - but fleeting - with, River is the person you marry. I think the respective Doctors love them about equally, and in different ways. She tried to change the fixed point just for HIM. :|. Two different loves, Rose and the doctors love was more entertaining, imo. I'll ship the Doctor/River well over a million times over before I'd ship the Doctor/Rose. But you should remember this. © 2006-2021 Fanpop, Inc., all rights reserved. No matter what Doctor it is he will ALWAYS love Rose. Ok good. But Rose was just a child for him. There is no surprise... it's somewhat like dictated fate or a prophecy of sorts. If the Doctor married River in a time that never actually happened, what's to say he ever married her. She was the first face he saw in two regenerations, and the last he said goodbye to. I love museums." Aziraphale gets into the wrong car and the unsuspecting doctor is mistaken by the angel for Crowley (who overslept and forgot to pick him up). Even if he tells her his name, he knows she won't abuse it because she will die when she is still in love with him. But with Rose I really did. The Doctor and River Song River Song is The Doctor’s wedded wife, and never before in television has there been a more long-distance marriage. 10 AND 11 HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES!!! 1 The Doctor: Leaving Jark Harkness Stranded Doctor is a time lord and he is a genius. They were both of his hearts... Something to say? "Wrong. He is cursed for that reason. I also think it really just depends on who is writing/running the show at the time. Create a new Fanpop account! He was furious that it was going to happen, and elated when he thought it hadn't. Doctor loved Rose without a doubt. She can regenerate as doctor (we know she gave her all regenerations to doctor). I don't think the Doctor was in love with Rose. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 9-Rose was just friends but 10-Rose... First, Rose was just 19, and Doctor was 900! And like Moffat said, "He loves his River.". With the Eleventh Doctor now passed into Whovian memory, it would seem that the Era of River Song has ended as well. I only pity her. And sincerely the Doctor has so many affairs he also loved the TARDIS when he had no one else his only true companion was the TARDIS. They reminded me of teenagers saying "I love you" to each other after they've been dating for a month. For Nine, Rose was an emotional beacon, someone who helped him come back from a very dark place and become someone he wasn't ashamed to be anymore, and he owed her a debt for that. He did love Rose. Or at least she felt much stronger. He even keeps a photo of her on his desk. River and Doctor appeared to be forced so in my eyes Doctor loves Rose more. River. The Doctor loves The Doctor the most. The relationship between 10th and Rose was a very human love relationship. I honestly never even saw a romance between rose and 10, just Rose having a huge highschool girl crush on him, and the doctor just kind of going along with it. A Member of Townsquare Entertainment News, Everybody who watched the last episode of Dr Who. I never thought the feelings were mutual between Rose and Ten. :-). you guys they are THE SAME PERSON he just looks different, He JUST looks different? Jul 26, 2019 - Explore Danielle Book's board "Doctor Who and Rose" on Pinterest. River can take care of herself I guess. I agree. I been watching some episodes of the tenth Doctor, and it has me thinking who does the Doctor love more. He can just hear randomly without even hearing that song. Not yet registered? River, is a time lord too. So deep, that it extended through time and space. 11 loves River. And guys don't 4get the doctor is 1 peson he just changes his face...duhhhh. But he had to let her go - she is happy with the Metacrisis Doctor now. She became more like him, a fellow time traveller. But River had her own adventures and invite doctor to come with her. There is no surprise... it's somewhat like dictated fate or a prophecy of sorts. Two different loves, Rose and the doctors love was more entertaining, imo. Measuring the intensity of love seems like a futile effort. It also allowed us to see the true love from River. <3 <3. Nevertheless with every regeneration the character changes. That's love. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Doctor wears bow tie and River generally night dress. It's reaching out, getting a good look at us. They were perfect!!!! His fellow traveller of Time who really gets it. Rose is a human, will die in a short. But if we consider the Doctor/Rose and Doctor/River relationship from a time-neutral perspective, I would have to say that the Doctor loves River more. I think that the doctor cares for River, but some part him still loves Rose and his other companions wether they are jus friends are not but he still thinks of them as his family besides the TARDIS, Well...the 9th and 10th doctor loves rose but matt forgot her soooo i uess its hem both, River is his wife!!!! Evey time she appears after TWORS in her timeline you can see how she loves him. He loves Rose. We will see again River, maybe in different face. I think he loved River deeply as his wife. River because he was actually clearly in love with her. "Doctor why did you come if you were only going to make fun of everything in here?" She is the woman doctor who try to find out "who is the doctor song". But it's not about River; it's about the girl who will always hold a special place in the Doctor's heart, the one he'd drop everything to save, the … See more ideas about 11th doctor, doctor, doctor who. It also allowed us to see the true love from River. "Last one positive." By the end of Season 6, we witness the Wedding of River Song to the Doctor. The love for River transcendent doctors. (TV: Fat… Doctor loves Rose. I asked as he continued to pull me by the arm; Amy lagging behind slightly, looking just as bored at me. Ten's "love" for River wasn't developed for her and expired from her. They may be the same person, but they are very different. I mean, he burned up a star to see her one last time and say goodbye. I think that in the 50th anniversary episode we will be able to tell whom the doctor cares for more. Back in the old days, the Doctor was devastated when Jo Grant left in The Green Death, and the 10th Doctor's relationship with Rose became a romantic tragedy by the end. I love River AND I love Rose. He waste some of his regeneration energy to fix her wrist. But I think Rose was the woman who saved his life. Rose Tyler or River Song, what do you guys think? That being said, I would say that Rose had the love and lust from a new relationship and River had the strong wife vibe. She is like a game. Sign in with one of these options: Cookies help us bring you Fanpop. "Well done sweetie; you did amazingly." TEn would chop off both of his arms for Rose, we all know that, but Eleven… I don’t know. When you see the thirteenth episode it will become clear. That's why, and this is a slight spoiler: she was one of the pictures on his desk in The Pilot, and not Rose. He will never love River as much as he loved Rose. She was his weakness. She gave her regeneration energy to save him. We've always been told how much The Doctor loves River, e.g. Because he gets older and gets a new body and new metabolism. And also say last thing about Clara, isn't she like a machine, cold, nothing special of her? And she is professor (higher than the doctor) and she knows a lot about the doctors past and future, and this make doctor proud of her and respect her. Oh I have seen them all it was more of a question to see what other people think. They are born for each other. And I think River has a hand about that. I'm pretty sure Moffat intends River to have been his only love though. So OBVIOUSLY they get married again, Yeah, in Silence in the library, River whispers his name into his ear and that is when he beleives that she is somebody important, But I think you miss the IMPORTANT Little picture while you're dealing with the bigger picture. River though, he cared for on a much deeper level. Reddit's Doctor Who Fan Community - News, Discussion, Artwork and Fan Creations! River was clearly in love with him. I never honestly felt the love between River and the Doctor. Riversong, no question. So of course, he's going to one-up the Doctors "romantic" relationship. I don't think people really seem to look at those details and realise how much they mean. Rose bid farewell to fans in 2010 when she became trapped in a parallel universe. The Doctor explained that both universes could collapse if he did so, but this only prompted a nonchalant “So?” from Rose. The first appearance of River Song is still, in my opinion, the best, and contains perhaps the most romantic line about how we perceive the people we love. Especially on Darillium - where they spent 24 years together - there's definitley love between them. The Doctor trusted River, in the end, and likely relied on her more. Also that's an action big enough to cause the Doctor to die/ regenerate. Of course they are differen! She is an ordinary human with a big love for the Doctor, big enough to lleave everyhing she ever had behind. She's always been much to pretentious for my liking anyway. I´d also say that 10 was in love with Rose. It's not about allowing, it's about the laws of Time. Both are special to him in a different way but equally important to his growth. River doesn't compare to her what so ever. tl;dr: He did love Rose, now he loves River. He knows she and him will be together and that she will die. Someone who loves him for who he is, not what he represents, flaws and all. i agree with all of ya but did 11 not say 'Dorium i'm a time traveler, i can help Rose Tyler with her homework'. Doctor couldn't direct her. In fact in the series 4 finale, his Duplicate confesses that love to … her picture on his desk, but I thought Nine with Rose was a more organic romance. He was obsessed with Clara. She is doctor and later professor. Cookies help us deliver our Services. He loved Rose more than anyone and even though he has accepted that she is happy somewhere else and they're never going to be together he still loves her more. River said and I smiled as the Doctor let me go and began to scan the plug as Amy hugged me tightly. And Doctor.. A companion goes and does what doctor says. Tennant really please the fans when he finally said everything that fans have assumed the Doctor was thinking during Rose’s second goodbye, in … I think it wasn't just 'flirting'. She uses gun, doctor uses screwdriver. gooday and good night.And Romana beats both of em she is smarter prettier and braver.also a Time Lord.Watch the classic series.Just sayin, River Song, its adorable how akward he act when they kiss! The Doctor's line to Rose about waiting 5 and a half hours before leaving implies it anyway. A future Rose who had travelled back to that same day with the Doctor was present for these events, and interacted with her infant self, unleashing the Reapers. I like to think so, but his personality is slightly different. And i think love for rose sort of died with 10... 10 loved Rose. End of discussion. He cares her so much. But all the memories and all the people he's met( what makes him who he is) is with him till he dies. The Doctor never tells anybody else his real name at all. He's biologically, technically, whatever you want, the same being, but his personality, looks, and reactions are all different. And the doctor always is there. Please, the difference between David's Doctor and Matt's Doctor stretches as far and wide as the inside of the TARDIS itself. Because you know, her intension was pure, that was an act of true care, and love. Silence in the Library...She died saving him. But I think out Rose was more loved my the Doctor than River was. Rose was an important person to The Doctor, especially for 9, but it's not her photo the Doctor keeps on his desk. According to doctor (may be he liked him very much) Rose is a child who needs help. But due to different actors playing them, its okay for him to have new interests, such as River or fish fingers in custard. See more ideas about doctor who, doctor, dr who. River Song is a fictional character created by Steven Moffat and played by Alex Kingston in the British science-fiction series Doctor Who.River Song was introduced to the series as an experienced future companion of series protagonist the Doctor, an alien Time Lord who travels through time in his TARDIS.Because River Song is a time traveller herself, her adventures with the Doctor … It's sad be because she only gets 3 appearances after that, but Mels (for whatever reason) loved the Doctor and wnted to marry him. So if you think you know you have no clue. River was born there, so she was the child of the Tardis. He has his memories and that's it. But I'm sure now. Press J to jump to the feed. Rose is awesome!!!!!!! I think you could argue that The Doctor wasn't in love with Rose (in a romantic way). I'm listening tp an audio aventure, legit bbc, where the 7th Doctor is flying around saving stuff because his next body might be to weak to make the right choices. Whereas Eleven and Twelve, having had several centuries to move on from losing Rose, loves River as someone much more on his level, as a fellow time traveller, as an intellectual equal, as someone with just as much agency as he does. Well Rivers not an awful selfish chav so the answer seems obvious. Yeah Ten loves Rose 11 no longer but remembers her fondly 11 loves River and Ten is wondering who the heck River is. River is undeniable he cant get rid of her like song stuck in his head. We get that she was in love with him, but for her to suggest he go through with killing all of life just because she wanted a boyfriend was the worst thing she could have said. I agree. This is obviously a symbolic reveal that the Doctor did have feelings for Cameca after all, and wasn’t ready to let her go. The Doctor said and I sighed, shaking my head as he pulled me along the Museum; looking through all the glass cabinets, smirking. River. Eleven introduced us to the love of River from the Doctor. Doctor loves Rose. He gave his 24 years to her, his dear. He agreed to save time, but as she matured he loved her back. Thankyou!!!! Btw TARDIS-Granger, would yiu like me to actually write a list of how 10 and 11 are different???????? Guys please look at the big picture. I would say Clara even though he married River Song. Imo I don't think it's fair to compare the Rose-10th relationship to the River-11th relationship, because for all intents and purposes 10th and 11th are two different people. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Rose is not just a child who needs help. Well. With Doctor and River? No doubt the reason SM did put the line in SitL is because so many people did not work it out when watching GitFP and complained how the Doctor left Rose (and Mickey) to die on a spaceship in the 51st Century. I know they were "married" but It felt like he was just flirting with her more then real love. You may think that that would change the Rose-lover’s minds right? He knows she and him will be together and that she will die. River Song is his wife! Okay, they were very cute together but it wasn't fair. I think he loves River "more" in the sense that it's a longer lasting love spanning his life. His Partner. Eleven introduced us to the love of River from the Doctor. In my view, the Doctor just sees River as an object of flirting rather than someone to love and cherish. midwinter-sun:. It's enough that he did love them. It's not at all surprising the Doctor loved Rose; River is a much more questionable choice. What makes doctor , The doctor is same. Rose loved him, certainly, but I'm pretty sure it was unrequited for most of series 1 and 2. Remember Angels Take Manhattan. That's exactly what happened with the Doctor. But when he realised River's wrist, he was very worried about her.He forgot Amy and Rory just a while. But he never, for example, would have let Rose break her own wrist to escape a Weeping Angel. I don’t hate River Song anymore. While 10 was way more foregiving. 1 + 1 will always equal 2 no matter what planet you are on. He had to let her go because he destroy the universe to be with her. Same software different case. He loved her so much that he couldn't let himself love her for fear of how much it would hurt him when she was gone. She is also well trained warrior as the doctor. I whole-heartedly agree. Keep in mind that Nine, Ten, and Eleven are very different. (TV: The Unquiet Dead, Dalek, Army of Ghosts) Her father died when he was hit by a car while she was still a baby. But they are two very different sorts of love. When the Doctor regenerates, he becomes a different person. <3, Because, River said she married the Doctor, but then says to Amy that the universe then doesn't exist. When game over, you can restart from the beginning. When They Met For The First And Last Time. I agree with iamawhovian, and all who are pro-Rose. For Rose you knew he loved her with his heart and soul and their love grew. ok this is how it was and is... Rose was one of a kind and the doctor will always love her. © 2006-2021 Fanpop, Inc., All Rights Reserved. They will always be connected. But Rose let the whole time and space in her mind. In Manhatten and then Trenzalore, you can see him love her back. No. River ultimately was family. DOCTOR Who fans believe Billie Piper’s character Rose Tyler could be returning to the show. Rose was born in London (TV: The Doctor Dances) to Jackie (TV: Rose) and Pete Tyler (TV: Father's Day) around 1986. Bit right, mostly wrong. We have not seen that love yet, but it is ALLEGEDLY much stronger than his love for Rose. Well, the Ninth and Tenth Doctors were head over heels for Rose, and Eleven loves River. The Doctor is in a paralal universe with rose but he is human and will die there with her. And while it should be bittersweet, it is also honestly something of a relief. ITS SIMPLE!!! I didn’t like what Moffat gave us: A psychopathic, flat, feisty, flirty, angry, … The meta-crisis Doctor and Rose decide to take a little family Holiday in Rose's home dimension, riding in on a time machine that looks remarkably like a 1926 Bentley. I really did enjoy it. She was his wife. The creative team (with approval from many levels of production, I'm sure) wrote the Doctor and Rose to be in love. The episode that introduced a whole new generation to Doctor Who is amazingly well paced. 10 LOVES ROSE AND 11 LOVES RIVER! I liked what Moffat promised: A well-thought out, complex character, forced to live her life backwards to the people she loved, who genuinely cared about people and her Doctor. Only 10 loved Rose, maybe, he never did say it after al. Honestly, Moffatt has the need to make every companion the most important person in the entire galaxy all the time. He has feelings for River but ultimetly loves Rose and his wife from when he still lived in Gallifrey.End of discussion. 11 likes River, but Rose is the best. I feel as if he loved Rose more. He has just moved on and has feelings for River but Rose will always be the one. They are math. Interesting example to give, when he didn't allow her to break her wrist. It's no longer dormant." That being said, I would say that Rose had the love and lust from a new relationship and River had the strong wife vibe. Ten loved Rose, but much more in a crush kind of way. I see Rose as the human the The Doctor "stole" to heal his heart after the ravages of the Time War. What about Let's Kill Hitler? I pity her and the character arcs she was given. It never felt like love more like simple flirting. And it is true, no one will love him more than her. THEY'RE DIFFERENT ACTORS! I know Ten liked to tell Rose how special and different she was, but Ten was very emotional in general. She didn't show her wrist because she wanted him to be happy about "Okay, she escaped there. I really want the doctor to still love rose- i want it to be true, I think, in his heart-no matter which incarnation-the Doctor will always love Rose Tyler. You are right about River, but that cinematic run and that childish giggle hearing Rose was trying to come back from parallel world - yeah, I'm not sure you can. So I can save Amy and Rory". I hate those fics where the Doctor would just be head over heels for Rose when River would be RIGHT THERE. 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